Extraction form for project: SGS 2022 Enabling Technologies

Design Details

1. Extracted copublications
Provide citation id (eg, PMID) or other study information for sources of extracted data other than the primary article (eg, protocol article, secondary publications, ClinicalTrials.gov)
2. Study Design
Single Choice
RCT (comparing technologies of interest)
Nonrandomized comparison (of technologies of interest)
Single group (all receiving same technology)
Case series, incl. video (of one technology)
Other...
3. Directionality
If unclear or other, explain
Dependency
  • Question Position: 2
    • - Option: Nonrandomized comparison (of technologies of interest)
    • - Option: Single group (all receiving same technology)
    • - Option: Case series, incl. video (of one technology)
    • - Option: Other...
    Single Choice
    Prospective
    Retrospective
    Unclear
    Other
    4. Study dates
    Years that the study was conducted (or that the technologies were used). Just the years. If only a single year, just enter this in Start Year (don't repeat in End Year). If not reported, enter "<" the publication year (eg, if published in 2018, enter "<2018").
    Start Year
    End Year
    5. Funding sources
    If industry provided devices etc. for free, count this as industry funding.
    Single Choice
    Industry funding
    No industry funding
    NR
    6. Study country
    If one or more countries is not in list, check "Other" and enter the list (ideally in alphabetical order). If study done in multiple European countries, no need to also check or list the individual countries.
    Multiple Choice
    US
    Canada
    Europe (multiple countries)
    France
    Germany
    Israel
    Japan
    UK
    Other...
    7. Inclusion criteria (specific to GYN surgery)
    Describe eligibility criteria related to GYN procedure and vaginal surgical enabling technology use. Enter other eligibility criteria in next section. Be concise. Use well-understood abbreviations. If you copy and paste, please go back and edit/clean up
    8. Inclusion criteria, other
    As needed, describe other eligibility criteria (not related to GYN procedure or vaginal surgical enabling technology use). Skip if n/a. Be concise. Use well-understood abbreviations. Omit non-salient feature (e.g., informed consent, language). If you copy and paste, please go back and edit/clean up
    9. Exclusion criteria
    Do not repeat, or be redundant with, inclusion criteria. Be concise. Use well-understood abbreviations. Omit non-salient features. OK to leave this blank if nothing unique to add.
    10. Centers (number)
    If not explicitly reported, use your best judgment.
    Single Choice
    Single center
    Multiple centers
    Unclear/NR
    11. Surgical teams (number)
    If not explicitly reported, use your best judgment.
    Single Choice
    Single surgical team
    Multiple surgical teams
    Unclear/NR
    12. Comments/Notes
    13. SECONDARY REVIEWER: Name
    Your name (if you are the secondary reviewer)
    14. SECONDARY REVIEWER: Corrections to DESIGN DETAILS
    List corrections (from your perspective) pertinent to this section/tab. You don't need to list trivial corrections (like typos; except maybe number typos).
    15. SECONDARY REVIEWER: Corrections to RESULTS
    List corrections (from your perspective) pertinent to the extracted results, including things like comparisons and measures used. You don't need to list trivial corrections (like typos; except maybe number typos).
    16. SECONDARY REVIEWER: Complete and checked
    For all sections. Secondary reviewer should check the "COMPLETE" box when done. Sunil (or his assignee) will check the FINALIZED box when all set. If there are issues, write a few words to capture them.
    2ary review COMPLETE
    Multiple Choice
    Yes, 2ary review complete
    No, issues to resolve
    Extraction FINALIZED
    Multiple Choice
    Yes, extraction finalized
    No, issues to resolve

    Arm Details

    1. Specific technology
    Name or other identifier of technology, if not fully described by the Arm Name (not the description of the technology)
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    2. Technology description
    Description and/or details about technology. Be concise. Omit if nothing additional is necessary.
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    3. Other comments/notes
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    4. SECONDARY REVIEWER: Corrections to ARMS or ARMS DETAILS
    List corrections (from your perspective) pertinent to the extracted arm list or name of arms or arm details. You don't need to list trivial corrections (like typos; except maybe number typos).
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    Sample Characteristics

    1. No. enrolled
    Enrolled or initially included (before dropouts, missing data). Particularly for retrospective studies, may be same as number analyzed. Check NR/unclear if NR.
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    No.
    NR
    Multiple Choice
    NR/unclear
    2. Surgical indication(s)
    For each indication, enter percent (0-100%), not the proportion (0-1). Calculate % from n/N. Confirm that %ages add to 100%. If the %age is NR for given indications, enter NR for those indications. If a listed indication is not included (ie, 0%), leave blank. (Remember that the indications may be listed in the Methods, not the Results). You can skip the Definition column (for specific or all indications). Answer the LAST ROW only once and only in the Total section (not per arm). Omit the last row for single group studies (or if NR for overall question). Otherwise, note "No difference", P value (if <0.05), or explanation of any perceived difference.
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    DefinitionPercentage (%)% NR
    Bleeding abnormality
    Multiple Choice
    %NR
    Endometriosis
    Multiple Choice
    %NR
    Adenomyosis
    Multiple Choice
    %NR
    Adnexal mass
    Multiple Choice
    %NR
    Cervical dysplasia
    Multiple Choice
    %NR
    Pelvic pain etc.
    Multiple Choice
    %NR
    Prolapse, pelvic organ
    Multiple Choice
    %NR
    Endom Intra Neop (EIN)
    Multiple Choice
    %NR
    BRCA positive
    Multiple Choice
    %NR
    Other 1
    Multiple Choice
    %NR
    Other 2
    Multiple Choice
    %NR
    Other 3
    Multiple Choice
    %NR
    Other 4
    Multiple Choice
    %NR
    Other 5
    Multiple Choice
    %NR
    Difference between groups
    Single Choice

    Single Choice

    3. Surgical procedures
    If the procedures are identical in both groups (eg, 100% one procedure) OR if they don't report % within each study group, please ONLY complete the TOTAL section. First click the procedure(s), then enter the percent (0-100%, not proportion [0-1]). If you select either of the "OTHER" options, name these.
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    Multiple Choice
    Colporrhaphy
    Cystectomy, ovarian
    Fistula repair
    Myomectomy
    Oophorectomy
    Sacrospinous ligament suspension
    Salpingectomy
    Salpingo-oophorectomy
    Subtotal vaginal hysterectomy
    Total vaginal hysterectomy
    Uterosacral ligament suspension
    Other adnexal surgery
    Other
    4. Age
    No need to complete more than one row. Note that full range might be derived from eligibility criteria. Answer the LAST ROW only once and only in the Total section (not per arm). Omit the last row for single group studies (or if NR for overall question). Otherwise, note "No difference", P value (if <0.05), or explanation of any perceived difference.
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    Mean (SD)
    Median (IQR)
    Median (full range)
    NR
    Multiple Choice
    NR
    Difference between groups
    5. BMI
    No need to complete more than one row. Note that full range might be derived from eligibility criteria. Answer the LAST ROW only once and only in the Total section (not per arm). Omit the last row for single group studies (or if NR for overall question). Otherwise, note "No difference", P value (if <0.05), or explanation of any perceived difference.
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    Mean (SD)
    Median (IQR)
    Median (full range)
    NR
    Multiple Choice
    NR
    Difference between groups
    6. Race/Ethnicity
    Extract or calculate % (0-100%), not proportion (0-1). Skip not relevant or not reported rows. For "Other" categories, Enter description and %. For example: Indian 42%. Answer the LAST ROW only once and only in the Total section (not per arm). Omit the last row for single group studies (or if NR for overall question). Otherwise, note "No difference", P value (if <0.05), or explanation of any perceived difference.
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    NR
    Multiple Choice
    NR
    White (all)
    White, non-Hispanic
    Black/AA (all)
    Black/AA, non-Hispanic
    Hispanic/Latina
    Asian (all)
    Other 1
    Other 2
    Other 3
    Other 4
    Difference between groups
    7. Parity
    No need to complete more than one row. Note that full range might be derived from eligibility criteria. Answer the LAST ROW only once and only in the Total section (not per arm). Omit the last row for single group studies (or if NR for overall question). Otherwise, note "No difference", P value (if <0.05), or explanation of any perceived difference.
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    Mean (SD)
    Median (IQR)
    Median (full range)
    NR
    Multiple Choice
    NR
    Difference between groups
    8. No. vaginal births
    No need to complete more than one row. Note that full range might be derived from eligibility criteria. Answer the LAST ROW only once and only in the Total section (not per arm). Omit the last row for single group studies (or if NR for overall question). Otherwise, note "No difference", P value (if <0.05), or explanation of any perceived difference.
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    Mean (SD)
    Median (IQR)
    Median (full range)
    NR
    Multiple Choice
    NR
    Difference between groups
    9. No. cesarean sections
    No need to complete more than one row. Note that full range might be derived from eligibility criteria. Answer the LAST ROW only once and only in the Total section (not per arm). Omit the last row for single group studies (or if NR for overall question). Otherwise, note "No difference", P value (if <0.05), or explanation of any perceived difference.
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    Mean (SD)
    Median (IQR)
    Median (full range)
    NR
    Multiple Choice
    NR
    Difference between groups
    10. Comorbidities
    List with %ages or other numerical data, as feasible. Answer the LAST ROW only once and only in the Total section (not per arm). Omit the last row for single group studies (or if NR for overall question). Otherwise, note "No difference", P value (if <0.05), or explanation of any perceived difference.
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    Comorbidities
    Differences between groups
    11. Prior surgeries
    List with %ages or other numerical data, as feasible. Answer the LAST ROW only once and only in the Total section (not per arm). Omit the last row for single group studies (or if NR for overall question). Otherwise, note "No difference", P value (if <0.05), or explanation of any perceived difference.
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    Surgeries
    Differences between groups
    12. Uterine size (or weight)
    PREOPERATIVE size, including weight. No need to complete more than one row. Select units in the first row. Include ONLY NUMBERS in (one of) the next 3 rows. Check NR if necessary. Answer the LAST ROW only once and only in the Total section (not per arm). Omit the last row for single group studies (or if NR for overall question). Otherwise, note "No difference", P value (if <0.05), or explanation of any perceived difference.
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    Units
    Single Choice
    cc (mL)
    g
    weeks
    Other...
    Mean (SD)
    Median (IQR)
    Median (full range)
    NR
    Multiple Choice
    NR
    Differences between groups
    13. Adnexal mass (or cyst size)
    Complete only if adnexal surgery, otherwise, skip. PREOPERATIVE mass. No need to complete more than one row. Select units in the first row. Include ONLY NUMBERS in (one of) the next 3 rows. Check NR if necessary. Answer the LAST ROW only once and only in the Total section (not per arm). Omit the last row for single group studies (or if NR for overall question). Otherwise, note "No difference", P value (if <0.05), or explanation of any perceived difference.
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    Units
    Single Choice
    cc (mL)
    g
    cm (diameter)
    Other...
    Mean (SD)
    Median (IQR)
    Median (full range)
    NR
    Multiple Choice
    NR
    Differences between groups
    14. Pelvic/vaginal pain
    PREOPERATIVE. Select tool/measure in the first row. If not VAS, name the tool. If CATEGORICAL, define the pain category and in next row(s), enter %age (0-100%). Include ONLY NUMBERS in (one of) the next 3 rows. Check NR if necessary (even if indication does not have a pain component). Answer the LAST ROW only once and only in the Total section (not per arm). Omit the last row for single group studies (or if NR for overall question). Otherwise, note "No difference", P value (if <0.05), or explanation of any perceived difference.
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    Tool/Measure
    Single Choice
    VAS (0-100)
    VAS (0-10)
    Other tool...
    > threshold (%)...
    Mean (SD)
    Median (IQR)
    Median (full range)
    NR
    Multiple Choice
    NR
    Differences between groups
    15. QoL
    PREOPERATIVE. Select questionnaire in the first row; check all tick boxes in first row and answer each: Min-Max: enter range of possible scores; Best QoL = min or max?: enter "min" or "max" to say whether the lowest or highest possible score corresponds to best QoL. Include ONLY NUMBERS in (one of) the next 3 rows. Check NR if necessary. Answer the LAST ROW only once and only in the Total section (not per arm). Omit the last row for single group studies (or if NR for overall question). Otherwise, note "No difference", P value (if <0.05), or explanation of any perceived difference.
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    Questionnaire
    Multiple Choice
    Name
    Min-Max range
    Best QoL = min or max?
    POPIQ7
    PFDI 20
    PFDI 20
    POPDI 6
    PFDI 20
    POPDI 6
    CRADI 8
    PFDI 20
    POPDI 6
    CRADI 8
    UDI 6
    PFDI 20
    POPDI 6
    CRADI 8
    UDI 6
    PISQ 12
    fsfi
    PELVIC FLOOR DISTRESS INVENTORY
    PFIQ
    PFDI 20 PFIQ
    min
    Quality of life vaginal symptoms; quality of life urinary symptoms
    Quality of life vaginal symptoms; quality of life urinary symptoms
    Quality of life vaginal symptoms; quality of life urinary symptoms
    0-100
    Quality of life vaginal symptoms; quality of life urinary symptoms
    0-100
    High sco
    Quality of life vaginal symptoms; quality of life urinary symptoms
    0-100
    High sco
    Quality of life vaginal symptoms; quality of life urinary symptoms
    0-100
    High sco
    Quality of life vaginal symptoms; quality of life urinary symptoms
    0-100
    Quality of life vaginal symptoms; quality of life urinary symptoms
    Quality of life vaginal symptoms; quality of life urinary symptoms
    vaginal quality of life; urinary quality of life
    vaginal quality of life; urinary quality of life
    vaginal quality of life; urinary quality of life
    QoL, quality of life
    EQ-5D-3L
    Mean (SD)
    Median (IQR)
    Median (full range)
    NR
    Multiple Choice
    NR
    Differences between groups
    16. Comments/Notes
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    17. SECONDARY REVIEWER: Corrections to SAMPLE CHARACTERISTICS
    List corrections (from your perspective) pertinent to the extracted sample characteristics. You don't need to list trivial corrections (like typos; except maybe number typos).
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    Outcome Details

    1. Comments/Notes
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    2. SECONDARY REVIEWER: Corrections to OUTCOMES or OUTCOME DETAILS
    List corrections (from your perspective) pertinent to the extracted outcome list or name or definition of outcomes, or time points, or outcome details. You don't need to list trivial corrections (like typos; except maybe number typos).
    Cx: Genitourinary injury:

    Risk of Bias Assessment

    1. Study Design
    Answer this question to allow program to select the right questions for you.
    Single Choice
    RCT
    NRCS (nonrandomized)
    Single group
    2. Clarity: Discrepancies
    Was the article free of discrepancies (eg, between text and tables)? Add note if No (High concern)
    Single Choice
    Yes (Low concern)
    No (High concern)
    3. Clarity: Population
    Were patient eligibility criteria sufficiently clear? Add note if No (High concern).
    Single Choice
    Yes (Low concern)
    No (High concern)
    4. Clarity: Intervention (technology) and Comparator
    Were the technology and comparator sufficiently clearly described? Add note if No (High concern).
    Single Choice
    Yes (Low concern)
    No (High concern)
    5. Clarity: Outcomes
    Were the outcomes adequately defined without problem. Add note if No (High concern). Not every outcome requires an explicit definition (e.g., length of hospital stay).
    Single Choice
    Yes (Low concern)
    No (High concern)
    6. Clarity: Setting
    Was the setting sufficiently clearly defined (e.g., the surgical team)? Add note if No (High concern). Not every outcome requires an explicit definition (e.g., length of hospital stay).
    Single Choice
    Yes (Low concern)
    No (High concern)
    7. Random sequence generation
    Selection bias (biased allocation to interventions) due to inadequate generation of a randomized sequence. If they say only "randomized" this says nothing about the random sequence generation (select Unclear and enter "NR"). There is a low risk of selection bias if the investigators describe a random component in the sequence generation process such as: referring to a random number table, using a computer random number generator, coin tossing, shuffling cards or envelopes, throwing dice, drawing of lots, minimization (minimization may be implemented without a random element, and this is considered to be equivalent to being random). There is a high risk of selection bias if the investigators describe a non-random component in the sequence generation process, such as: sequence generated by odd or even date of birth, date (or day) of admission, hospital or clinic record number; or allocation by judgement of the clinician, preference of the participant, results of a laboratory test or a series of tests, or availability of the intervention. ADD NOTE IF UNCLEAR (usually "NR") OR HIGH ROB.
    Dependency
  • Question Position: 1
    • - Option: RCT
    Rating
    Single Choice
    Low RoB
    Unclear
    High RoB
    8. Allocation concealment
    Selection bias (biased allocation to interventions) due to inadequate concealment of allocations prior to assignment. This usually not reported (select Unclear and enter "NR"). There is a low risk of selection bias if the participants and investigators enrolling participants could not foresee assignment because one of the following, or an equivalent method, was used to conceal allocation: central allocation (including telephone, web-based and pharmacy-controlled randomization); sequentially numbered drug containers of identical appearance; or sequentially numbered, opaque, sealed envelopes. There is a high risk of bias if participants or investigators enrolling participants could possibly foresee assignments and thus introduce selection bias, such as allocation based on: using an open random allocation schedule (e.g. a list of random numbers); assignment envelopes were used without appropriate safeguards (e.g. if envelopes were unsealed or non-opaque or not sequentially numbered); alternation or rotation; date of birth; case record number; or other explicitly unconcealed procedures. ADD NOTE IF UNCLEAR (usually enter "NR) OR HIGH ROB.
    Dependency
  • Question Position: 1
    • - Option: RCT
    Rating
    Single Choice
    Low RoB
    Unclear
    High RoB
    9. Blinding of participants and personnel
    Performance bias due to knowledge of the allocated interventions by participants during the study. There is a low risk of performance bias if blinding of participants and key study personnel was ensured and it was unlikely that the blinding could have been broken. If unblinded, enter HIGH RoB even if blinding would have been impossible (the RoB still exists). If no mention of blinding use your judgment, erring on the side of unblinded. ADD NOTE ONLY IF there's something atypical beyond lack of blinding.
    Dependency
  • Question Position: 1
    • - Option: RCT
    Rating
    Single Choice
    Low RoB
    Unclear
    High RoB
    10. Blinding of outcome assessor
    Detection bias due to knowledge of the allocated interventions by outcome assessors. There is LOW risk of detection bias if the blinding of the outcome assessment was ensured and it was unlikely that the blinding could have been broken. Note that most outcomes of interest could have been assessed by blinded outcome assessors (except, possibly patient-reported or surgeon-reported outcomes; which are addressed by the question about patient/provider blinding). ADD NOTE ONLY IF there's something atypical beyond lack of blinding (of if there was differential blinding for different outcomes). Use your judgment if blinding information was not reported.
    Dependency
  • Question Position: 1
    • - Option: RCT
    Rating
    Single Choice
    Low RoB
    Unclear
    High RoB
    11. Incomplete outcome data
    Attrition bias due to amount, nature or handling of incomplete outcome data. There is a LOW risk of attrition bias if there were No missing outcome data; if attrition was <20% and reasons for missing outcome data were unlikely to be related to the true outcome and missing outcome data were BALANCED in % loss, with similar reasons for missing data across groups. ADD NOTE IF UNCLEAR OR HIGH RoB.
    Rating
    Single Choice
    Low RoB
    Unclear
    High RoB
    12. Selective Reporting
    Reporting bias due to selective outcome reporting. This may be difficult to judge. There is LOW risk of reporting bias if the study protocol is available and all of the study’s pre-specified (primary and secondary) outcomes that are of interest in the review have been reported in the pre-specified way, or if the study protocol is not available but it is clear that the published reports include all expected outcome, including those that were pre-specified (convincing text of this nature may be uncommon). There is a HIGH risk of reporting bias if not all of the study’s pre-specified primary outcomes have been reported; one or more primary outcomes is reported using measurements, analysis methods or subsets of the data (e.g. subscales) that were not pre-specified; one or more reported primary outcomes were not pre-specified (unless clear justification for their reporting is provided, such as an unexpected adverse effect); one or more outcomes of interest in the review are reported incompletely so that they cannot be entered in a meta-analysis; the study report fails to include results for a key outcome that would be expected to have been reported for such a study. ADD NOTE IF UNCLEAR OR HIGH RoB.
    Rating
    Single Choice
    Low RoB
    Unclear
    High RoB
    13. Intention-to-treat-analysis
    Bias due to incomplete reporting and analysis according to group allocation. There is low risk of bias if all randomized patients were reported/analyzed in the group to which they were allocated by randomization. Either with intention-to-treat methods or if there were no dropouts (all analyzed). Note that authors' use of the term ITT does not at all guarantee that ITT methods were used. ADD NOTE ONLY if something unusual.
    Dependency
  • Question Position: 1
    • - Option: RCT
    Rating
    Single Choice
    Low RoB
    Unclear
    High RoB
    14. Representativeness of the cases
    LOW RoB if all eligible cases with outcome of interest over a defined period of time OR all cases in a defined catchment area OR all cases in a defined service OR a random sample of those cases; no concern about biased selection of patients. ADD NOTE IF UNCLEAR OR HIGH RoB.
    Dependency
  • Question Position: 1
    • - Option: NRCS (nonrandomized)
    • - Option: Single group
    Rating
    Single Choice
    Low RoB
    Unclear
    High RoB
    15. Selection of Controls
    LOW RoB if Controls were selected from the same source population as the cases AND essentially the same eligibility criteria (except for intervention). HIGH RoB if Controls were selected from a different source population that was not completely comparable OR different basic eligibility criteria. ADD NOTE IF UNCLEAR OR HIGH ROB.
    Dependency
  • Question Position: 1
    • - Option: NRCS (nonrandomized)
    Rating
    Single Choice
    Low RoB
    Unclear
    High RoB
    16. Other Bias
    Bias due to problems not covered elsewhere in the table. If yes (High RoB), describe them in the Notes.There is a LOW risk of bias if the study appears to be free of other sources of bias not addressed elsewhere
    Rating
    Single Choice
    Low RoB
    High RoB

    Suggested Arms

    NameDescription
    ConventionalNo enabling technology
    Endoloop
    Lighted suction
    Retractor
    Suture capturing device
    Telescopic camera
    Total All arms combined
    Vaginal robot
    Vessel sealing device
    vNOTES

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    Suggested Outcomes

    TypeDomainSpecific measurement (i.e., tool/definition/specific outcome)
    CategoricalCx: Bowel injury
    CategoricalCx: Clavien Dindo I
    CategoricalCx: Clavien Dindo I or II
    CategoricalCx: Clavien Dindo II
    CategoricalCx: Clavien Dindo III
    CategoricalCx: Clavien Dindo IV
    CategoricalCx: Clavien Dindo V (death)
    CategoricalCx: Clavien Dindo ≥III
    CategoricalCx: Complications (total)
    CategoricalCx: Fistula
    CategoricalCx: Genitourinary injury
    CategoricalCx: Hematoma
    CategoricalCx: Hemorrhage
    CategoricalCx: NeuropathyButtock pain
    CategoricalCx: Pelvic abscess
    CategoricalCx: Readmission
    CategoricalCx: Recurrent prolapse
    CategoricalCx: Return to OR
    CategoricalCx: Surgical wound infection
    CategoricalCx: Transfusion
    CategoricalCx: UTI
    CategoricalCx: Vascular injury
    CategoricalCx: Vulvar/vaginal injury
    CategoricalEduc: Improved visualization (cat)
    CategoricalEduc: Learner satisfaction (cat)
    CategoricalFertility: Future pregnancy
    CategoricalGI: Constipation
    CategoricalGI: Nausea/vomiting
    CategoricalResource: Same day discharge
    CategoricalSex: Dyspareunia
    CategoricalSurgeon/asst ergonomic strain
    CategoricalSurgery: Conversion to another route
    CategoricalSurgery: Procedure success
    ContinuousCyst size
    ContinuousEduc: Improved visualization (cont)
    ContinuousEduc: Learner satisfaction (cont)
    ContinuousHgb
    ContinuousPain, post-op
    ContinuousPain: Narcotic use
    ContinuousPatient satisfaction
    ContinuousQoL
    ContinuousResource: Cost/resource use
    ContinuousResource: Length of hospital stay
    ContinuousSexual QoL/score
    ContinuousSurgery: EBL
    ContinuousSurgery: OR time
    ContinuousSurgery: Procedure/operative time
    ContinuousUterine size (volume)
    ContinuousUterine weight

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